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I've Been Thinking About Survival

November 1st, 2012 at 07:52 pm

I've been reading a survival blog for about a week or so. It's by one of those people who are preparing for the end of the world as we know it. It's been interesting reading, especially in light of what has happened on the East Coast this week. I imagine in some places it really has become the end of their individual worlds, especially for those who were not prepared for the wrath of Sandy.

It's definitely made me think about how prepared I would be to handle a similar emergency. Although we don't get hurricanes here, there is always the chance of one of the volcanos blowing again. Depending on the wind, we could get hit by ash from Mt. Saint Helens. Mt. Baker is a constant steamer, if it ever woke up we could get hit by more than ash. And of course there are always earthquakes living here in the ring of fire. Though we are most likely to be stuck at home due to a Nor'easter blizzard than anything else.

I think the longest I've ever gone without power was five days. But we had the wood stove and we had water and ice and a good store of canned goods. We had kerosene lamps and candles and I could charge my laptop off the car battery.

I decided to inventory what we do have if the power fails. We have enough canned goods to get through about a week. More if you count all the jam and tomatoes, but I'm talking more canned meats and vegetables. I think that is something I should probably rectify. I have plenty of food in the freezer but that does not help me much if the power fails.

I also need to set in a store of water. I mean we have the rain barrels, three of them, but any water from them would have to be boiled, so I think I should get in several gallons of drinking water. I also need to work on canned meat and canned fruit and a bit more canned veg. Pineapple is my number one priority for fruit as it would hold off things like scurvy or vitamin C deficiency. But we should have more green beans on hand. I'd like to keep a fairly balanced diet and that would help.

I have been watching videos on how to can your own beef, chicken, or venison, so as I get a surplus going I may do that. I'd rather know where my meat is coming from and can it myself, but meanwhile I have 12 cans of beef, 2 cans of chicken, and four cans of tuna.

I'd really prefer to be able to survive more than a week without a grocery store. In the case of a disaster it could be several weeks before we got our infrastructure back.

How about you guys? How long could you survive without power?

16 Responses to “I've Been Thinking About Survival”

  1. ThriftoRama Says:
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    I think about this kind of thing all the time, as a result of going through Hurricane Katrina. Now I have two little kids and am always thinking about how we'll get by!

  2. Joan.of.the.Arch Says:
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    Without power and grocery store? In winter, I might do very poorly. We have no provision for heat other than our gas furnace with its electric blower. If cold enough, our pipes would freeze. Honestly I would freeze before then. Since menopause, I just cannot generate the body heat I used to. I think our city can still supply water in a black out, but I do keep water, just as my childhood family taught me. I just store tap water. I disinfect the jugs regularly and add fresh water with a couple drops of bleach, then store in a nearly dark place. I think we could eat for a month, as long as we had water with which to cook. I keep a fairly large amount of pasta, beans, lentils, peas, rice, corn meal, oats, flour, etc. I mean, not like a survivalist, but certainly more than in most kitchens. Usually I have a large store of long keeping vegetables, either butternut squash or sweet potatoes, but not this year. Sweet potatoes last for a couple years on the shelf. Oh, and hey, my DH made a solar cooker box, but so far we have only cooked potatoes in it.

  3. wowitsawonderfullife Says:
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    Hate to say this since you've named them but you could always eat the ducks and chickens if you were desperate. Sorry :-(

  4. Looking Forward Says:
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    If we knew something really major was coming we would pack up and head to family far enough away. We are lucky to have that option. If it was just a matter of two to four days we could get by pretty well - wood fireplace, gas to cook with, generator, etc..

  5. baselle Says:
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    Right now, not that long. A couple of days. FYI - make sure the meat canning recipes use pressure canning. Unless you have an alternate use for botulism - which wouldn't work fast enough to use as a zombie weapon. Smile

  6. LuckyRobin Says:
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    WIWFL--Well, we'd use the eggs for a protein source, yes. But hopefully it wouldn't come down to eating the birds. Still, if it's them or us, we would do it.

    Baselle--I know. Really the only thing that doesn't use a pressure canner is fruit, and even some of that you have to add lemon juice to if you do water bath can.

  7. SnoopyCool Says:
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    I've canned meat before with a pressure canner. It tastes SO much better than buying canned meat at the store. Go for it! You'll love the taste.

    As I mentioned on the forum, my family would be good in an emergency for a relatively long time. DH is into survival as a hobby, so we're pretty prepared for whatever might come (both if we stay home or have to evacuate). That being said, you really don't know how prepared you are until you get into a situation that requires you to put your supplies and skills to use. Still, I think we'd do pretty well.

    We have chickens, too. If they weren't killed in some sort of disaster we could have chicken meat, though it wouldn't be easy to kill them because the kids consider them as pets.

  8. Mike Hotel Says:
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    We're at six months here, save feeding extended family and neighbors, that would probably notch us down to about a month. Adirondack is a Mohawk word for "Bark eater". The Adironacks would eat the inner bark and needles from a pine tree in the winter. They are very high in vitamin C and will prevent scurvy. The needles can be crumpled up (when fresh) and boiled in hot water to make tea. Great post, btw. I love talking about what ifs.

  9. LuckyRobin Says:
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    Mike, that's good to know. We have plenty of pine trees around. I'm sure eating the inner bark would be a last resort, but the tea would be a good go-to beverage for vitamin C.

  10. kristinxmarie Says:
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    hmm never really thought about this before, i'm in arizona, so we dont have much to worry about besides crazy heat. i'd say if something came up the majority of us out here would be screwed lol. hmm ... without power, i'd say i could get through 3-4 days, definitly no more than a week. if i was able to get a few miles down the street to my best friends house, he has a gas stove in which case if i could get myself and my stuff to his place to use that then i could get us through probably 2 weeks.

  11. snafu Says:
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    We had a train derailment in our community and the dangerous substances being transported resulted in an enforced evacuation. We were woefully unprepared and took all the wrong/ueless things. Experience is a powerful motivator and although we live in another city we have a survival plan, money, food, water & kit for about 10 days. When electric fails, CC/debit cards are useless. For convenience we have always filled the gas on vehicles on the way home so they are ready to go in the AM when Murphy's Law can take hold.

    1st step, no cost, have a 'call in emergency' person in an other city to keep communications going.

  12. PNW Mom Says:
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    This post is very interesting. DH and I have been watching a new show called Revolution. It is set 15 years into the future after the lights on the entire planet go out....no electricity what so ever. The story isn't so much about how people are living and surviving, but it did get me thinking about how we would survive a disaster. Being in the NW along with LR, eathquakes are probably our biggest threat, but we did have a huge snowstorm a few years ago, which really shut things down for a while. I remember the ash from Mt St Helens back way back then (we are right across the river from WA state) and it drifted over into Oregon. We could get by for a week or two with canned/dry boxed goods. We also have one of those emergency backpack thingy's with survival stuff in it....not really sure how long we would last with that, but every bit helps.

  13. LuckyRobin Says:
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    PNW, I watch that show, too, though I have a few issues with some stuff, like how they stay so clean and have perfectly tailored, modern-looking clothing, or how the pavement and concrete hasn't been broken up by the plants which easily would have taken over in that amount of time, but I do like it a lot. It does make you think.

  14. PatientSaver Says:
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    Lucky robin, can you share the survival blog you've been reading?

    For me the biggest challenge would be heat, if something happened in the winter. I have no fireplace and the oil furnace requires electricity to start, so my pipes would freeze.

    Aside from food provisions, i think filling up the gas tank before a big storm is a VERY good idea (there were gas lines a mile long in NJ after Sandy) and also keeping a fair amount of cash on hand. Batteries for a radio would also be ideal, since once you lose power, communication and finding out what's happening becomes very important but difficult if you're stuck at home.

    One thing I found during my recent outage that no one really talks about is the boredom. Once it gets dark, you're reduced to illumination by flashlight, and you can't really read by a flashlight; with all electronic entertainment out (Internet, TV, etc) your options become really limited. I didn't bother bringing in my outdoor solar lights, but that would also be helpful to put in different rooms, provided you don't get too many consecutive cloudy days which would drain the solar lights.

  15. LuckyRobin Says:
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    PS--It is www.survivalblog.com.

    I always had kerosene lamps and they were bright enough to read by. WalMart sells them and the lamp oil, or at least that is where I got mine many years ago.

  16. Linda Says:
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    With the kind of environment you are living in, it is really wise you are thinking ahead and preparing. Five days without electricity is really challenging and I think I need to prepare myself for a trip after knowing in advance about the power failure. Anyway, I think that this will be a good learning experience for you. I can imagine how calm and prepared you will be in case you face similar inconveniences.

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